Comments on: Where do Libertarians Belong?

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By: Wulf

Wulf — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:39:00 +0000

Brad, you ask whether we would have an easier time dragging the Republicans or the Democrats towards our side. Let’s admit the real issue in this question. Dragging the Democrats over would be like herding cats. But the GOP is too organized to be moved easily, and they are too beholden to the Christian Right for libertarians to usurp the party platform easily.

I think from a practical point of view, libertarians would be better served by supporting fiscally conservative Democrats, or better yet infiltrating them. Bush is proving that the GOP is no longer even pretending to be about smaller government – it may actually be the more progressive of our two major parties.

By: Brad Warbiany

Brad Warbiany — Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:37:00 +0000

dada,
That would be the case if libertarian was lower-left quadrant. I’m way into the lower-right quadrant, and Bush would have been closer economically to me, while not being much farther “up” the authoritarian ladder. And as I previously mentioned, I don’t think he can enact his social agenda, so I’m not all that worried about it.

By: Quincy

Quincy — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:00 +0000

I really see the new political compass as being pro- or anti-government, rather than the current right-left orientation. Over the last 40 years or so, conservative and liberal, and consequently right and left, have lost almost all their meaning. The political parties seem to adopt piecemeal platforms rather than views guided by an overarching ideology.

It’s really only a matter of time before some politician or pundit or the blogosphere starts taking the debate away from right-left and to some other orientation. It would serve libertarians (and old-guard conservatives) to make this pro- or anti-government as opposed to something like popular v. elitist.

Of course, I really see the political compass as a many-faceted thing, but considering how most discourse nowadays always seems to end up debating a dichotomy, I’d say we should start pushing ours soon.

By: dadahead

dadahead — Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:03:00 +0000

But on the compass, Kerry is further toward the libertarian direction than Bush is. So while there’s not a lot of space between them, the compass would seem to reinforce my point that the Dems are closer to libertarians than the Republicans are.

And, is national healthcare really so awful that it’s worth risking Roe v. Wade, or another war?